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D.N. O'Donovan animal forms, art analysis - approaches, Historical context, iconographic analysis, Methods & Methodology October 4, 2019February 6, 2023 19 Minutes

This research is dedicated to the memory of Timothy Rayhel and W. R. Newbold. Not because they were right; not because they were wrong

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The O'DONOVAN 5-yr conceptual medal for the single most valuable contribution to study of BEINECKE MS 408. Awarded 2021.. . to WLADIMIR DULOV, codicologist.

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The fact is that within the study as a whole, the origin of the content remains largely unknown; the nature of the content remains unknown; the question of ‘authorship’ for the content is scarcely addressed by formal investigation; and whether or not it is in cipher is still unproven.

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Postscripts – additional information

D.N. O'Donovan on Q: “Evidence please?” (f.25v)
D.N. O'Donovan on Q: “Evidence please?” (f.25v)
D.N. O'Donovan on Eastern matters and the Voynich manuscript’s drawings.
D.N. O'Donovan on Eastern matters and the Voynich manuscript’s drawings.
D.N. O'Donovan on Q: “Evidence please?” (f.25v)
D.N. O'Donovan on Q: “Evidence please?” (f.25v)
D.N. O'Donovan on Q: “Evidence please?” (f.25v)
D.N. O'Donovan on Q: “Evidence please?” (f.25v)
D.N. O'Donovan on Eastern matters and the Voynich manuscript’s drawings.
D.N. O'Donovan on Darius and Asenath (concluded)

FEYNMAN on METHOD

It doesn’t make a difference how beautiful your guess is. It doesn’t make a difference how smart you are, who made the guess, or what his name is… If it disagrees with experiment, it’s wrong. That’s all there is to it.”

or, as Confucius put it:

由，誨女知之乎，知之為知之，不知為不知，是知也.

On doing bad research.

“In bad research, there are several options:

1) Denial The evidence … ignored. It can be swept under the carpet.

2) Discrediting the source of the information.”

Rene Zandbergen, comment to Nick Pelling’s blog on May 19, 2018 at 6:50 am.

To which I’d add another:

(3) mis-attributing good information to avoid admitting that (1) and (2) were dishonestly done.

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re-using material from these posts. You can quote anything you like: just so long as you do quote it with mention of me, and the title of the page or post. Easy.

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WELCOME – factual corrections. “Don’t snigger in the corner, boy, speak up!” – Victorian headmaster.

must-read; must-link; must-share must-facts THIS ↓

Skepticalscience.com

and

Chris Budd OBE, Gresham Professor of Geometry, Gresham College. His lecture

The Maths of Climate Change

re – Abramo Colorni.

Please see:

Nick Pelling, ‘ Abraham Colorni’s Cryptography…’ ciphermysteries, Feb.9th., 2019.

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Some blogs I follow

A corner of tenth-century Europe Jonathan Jarrett
Agnostic Voynich. E.M. Smith
Alin Suciu, Patristics, Apocrypha, Coptic Literature and Manuscripts.
Ciphermysteries Nick Pelling,
Dr Claire’s Medieval Blog.
The Crews Project – writing systems.
FMRSI – Forum and conferences announcements for medieval and Renaissance Irish studies.
Grimbeau (just because)
Haybook. Armenian books digitised
hmmlorientalia Stopped writing new posts in 2015, but still a brilliant read.
Digital medievalists – tech-y cutting-edge.
Ipplepen Archaeological Project Roman Britain.
Koen Gheuen’s Voynich blog.
Litteravisigothica archaeology, manuscripts, palaeography theory and practice; sideline history, language, linguistics. Yum.
Making Manuscripts. Technical-historical-practical.
Manuscript road trip. Medieval mss in the US.
Medieval manuscripts blog. British Library
motoscribendi Libraries, Calligraphy Manuals and Motorcycles.
Musica medieval y renacentista acute accent over the ‘u’ of musica.Spanish and English. some posts include sound-tracks
Medieval Manuscripts Provenance
Pilgrimage in Medieval Ireland. routes, practices, architecture.
Seriform blog. Mostly 17thC and later but some exceptions.
Teaching the Codex ( Palaeography and Codicology 101)
Renaissance Mathematicus Thony Christie.
Travelling Scriptorium. Technical notes from Yale uni. handy quick reference.
Via Lucis. Photography – medieval religious architecture.
Viridis Green. Marco Ponzi’s site.
Vladimir’s blog.
Worcester Cathedral Library and Archive Blog.

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“The most nefarious problem is that [a certain Voynich theory] is pseudo-rigorous – that is it, it works hard to give the appearance of being rigorous scholarship while in fact it is not at all. … citations are used only for circumstantial evidence. As soon as we look at the concrete examples and the readings they … rest on pure speculation – often uninformed speculation.”

Magnus Pharao Hansen critiquing Janick and Tucker’s Nahuatl theory. Worth reading in full, because in my opinion Hansen’s statements hold true for all theory-driven Voynich narratives to date – not excluding those based on faith in Singer’s “feelings”, and which presently dominate all public discussion. (On Singer see d’Imperio pp. 7-8 and Santacoloma’s post). citations are not endorsements.

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